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A.H. Chamber’s Stuyvesant Garage, Kingston New York and a Brush car and a Model Thirty Packard

A.H. Chambers’ Stuyvesant Garage Kingston, New York

* Updated * A.H. Chambers operated the Stuyvesant Garage in Kingston, New York, which is north of New York City and one hundred miles up the Hudson River. * Update * According to the 1911-1912 Kingston Directory the location of the shop was at 223 Wall Street. The Garage sold the Stoddard-Dayton, Brush and the Sampson at the time (Update thanks to TinIndian). Judging by the appearance of the circa 1909 Model Thirty Packard seven-passenger touring car in the middle of the photo, a guess that this photo dates to about that time or a bit later should be close.

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  •             1917 Automobile Blue Book advertisement.

The small car on the left is a stripped down Brush, and the early touring car on the far right is the hardest of the three to identify. Several possibilities are; a Berliet, an early Alco built under a license from Berliet, or a Mercedes. Oddly it has blocks installed between the axles and the springs to raise it from the ground that may have helped in deep mud. It has an unusual extension on the front of the cape top.

Business must have been good to Chambers for at some point he either moved to or built the building seen with an Alco Truck out front and later in the advertisement above from the 1917 Automobile Blue Book. This location was at Clinton Avenue and Main Street on the west side of the City. At that time, the business had grown into an agency for the Maxwell, White, Winton and Oldsmobile and offered full service.

If you can date any of the cars or identify the unknown touring car send in a comment. The photo is courtesy of Americar.

A.H. Chamber’s Stuyvesant Garage, Kingston New York and a Model Thirty Packard

A.H. Chamber’s Stuyvesant Garage, Kingston New York and a Brush car.

23 responses to “A.H. Chambers’ Stuyvesant Garage Kingston, New York

  1. I tend to think a 1910 Packard model 30 (in 1909 the front fenders were still wing-like). The other car is indeed an Alco, probably 1909 or 1910, but the fenders are not standard. Wing-like fenders were used until 1910 (and even later), the new 1910 fender shape was different from the car on the photo, the touring cars having a vizor very much like the Packard-fenders.

  2. I wonder if the 2 boys pictured in the Brush car are Louis and Temple Abernathy who bought a Brush car for their trip back to Oklahoma from New York in 1910. They were 11 & 6 years old at this time.
    The story of these two boys is quite amazing.

    From wikipedia: When the boys completed their Santa Fe journey, they began planning a cross-country horseback ride to New York City, again by themselves, to meet Theodore Roosevelt when he returned from his trip to Africa and Europe. They made that trip in 1910. They were greeted as celebrities, and rode their horses in a ticker-tape parade just behind the car carrying Roosevelt. While in New York, the boys purchased a small Brush Motor Car, which they drove, again by themselves, back to Oklahoma, shipping their horses home by train

  3. Chambers was a Packard dealer at one time, and a model 30 he sold still exists (not the car in the great photo, however).

  4. I think the photo was taken before July 1910. I believe that is when NY state started issuing license plates (and ended owner-made plates). The state issued and required pairs. With none of the cars showing a plate on the front, I’d guess it is either before that or they are all owned by the dealership and have a single dealer plate on the back.

    • The Brush looks like it is a southern tread car as it appears to be wider than a standard Brush. Also looks like it has a non original firewall and seat . Great photo

  5. I believe the Stuyvesant garage in a later incarnation became the Denton Cadillac Oldsmobile dealership. When I purchased my 1956 Olds back in the 80’s the previous owner gave me a set of keys in a leather dealership case with the aforementioned name and a kingston NY phone number. An internet search revealed newspaper advertising for the dealership and the address was listed as 250 Clinton ave. Kingston, NY.

  6. Thanks for these charmers. We used to visit Ed Jurist’s Vintage Car Store in Nyack in the late ’60s, where he always had nicely rejuvenated versions of these thumpers, as well as the occasional Simplex Speed Car, Lozier, Chadwick, which with ALCO –big brass wonders with two-wheel brakes capable of well over 70-80mph if you had the nerve— were the holy grail of car collecting until a Duesenberg first owned by Greta Garbo became the first car to eclipse $100,000 at public auction in 1972. Overnight, “Classic” became the new byword for anything out of the Kelley Blue Book.

    • Ed Jurist and my dad were good friends in the 50s & 60s in Woodstock where he kept a home. His daughter Libb is stil in Woodstock and is married to Steely Dan.

  7. A.H. Chambers and Leon Chambers were two brothers who operated the Stuyvesant Garage. The “A” stood be for Adelbert, but he was known as Bert Their father was an M.D. in Kingston.

    The Chambers brothers had the Packard dealership until at least 1934, later sold Cadillac and possibly another make as well. There are several extant Packards sold by them, among these being a ’33 Super Eight 1003 sedan, a ’34 Eight 1100 sedan, and a ’31 8-45 7 pass sedan. Undoubtedly there are others as well.

  8. We had just finished ferrying all but one car from the ball diamond Concours d’ Elegance in Phoenix. Tom Barrett saved the BEST for last, to return to his garage in Paradise Valley, Scottsdale, Arz. Her carbide lights shone brightly as he pulled up and picked me up, for the nighttime return trip over desert back roads. The car? a Stoddard Dayton Speedster , circa 1910, with monacle windshield for the driver . Me? sunglasses, and glad to have ’em ! “Y’ hear that? , asked Tom, that’s 40 “! with the cut-out open, each huge cylinder PULSE could be heard! At each decade, he’d say: “Y hear that? At 80 MPH, he said: “I’d better slow up , we could hit a Coyote”! He backed off to 60 and the rest of the ride was just as thrilling , the carbide lights doing a fine job of lighting up the cacti. Tom was my Supervisor at Checker Cab Company . I was a Mercedes Mechanic . It was 1970. Edwin.

    • I’d be really interested in any photos of the garage circa 1956. My car was purchased new from Denton Cadillac Oldsmobile at 250 Clinton Ave that year and I’ve been looking to put some of it’s history together.

  9. Adelbert Henry Chambers, 1887 – 1974, and Leon Edward Chambers, 1893 – 1990, were the sons of George and Carrie Chambers.

    Adelbert started his own garage in 1906 or 1907, but there does not appear to be a name associated with it other than his own. This is what was at the 223 Wall Street address. In 1910 or 1911 the name changed to Stuyvesant Garage, and by sometime in 1912 it had moved to the 248 – 252 Clinton Avenue address. This new location was previously the Snyder Brothers Garage which moved to 269 Fair Street.

    Prior to working in his garage Adelbert had been a grocery store clerk and a Prudential Insurance Agent. At some point he was also a member of the National Guard of New York for three and a half years, probably as a Reserve Soldier because he is continually showed as the proprietor of the Stuyvesant Garage all the way through the late 1950s. The name of the business remained Stuyvesant Garage at least into 1935, but by the time the 1936 Kingston directory arrived the name had been changed to Stuyvesant Motors.

    Leon is shown working as a chauffeur in the 1910 U.S. Census, probably for his brother, but that is not explicitly stated in the census document. The 1920 U.S. Census shows his as a manager of a garage, the 1930 U.S. Census shows him as a part owner of a garage, and the 1940 U.S. Census simply states he was working for Stuyvesant Motors. His WWI Draft Registration states that he was “Lame in left leg” and had a “short left leg.” He was also a Notary Public.

    There were advertisements for the Stuyvesant Garage/Motors in nearly every Kingston Directory from 1911 – 1957. The exceptions that I found were from 1932 – 1934. Most of these ads were on the cover of the directory.

    Stuyvesant Garage/Motors sold an incredible variety of automobiles over the years. Using the directory advertisements I found the following marques. Note that I used the date inside the directories not that on the binding to make this easier. For years not shown I did not notice any changes or the directory was not available.

    1912 – Stoddard-Dayton, Maxwell, Columbia, Oakland Cars and Sampson Trucks
    1913 – Fiat, Maxwell, Mercer
    1916 – Fiat, Winton, Maxwell, Oldsmobile, Haynes, Scripps-Booth, G.M.C. Trucks
    1919 – Winton, Maxwell, Oldsmobile, Hupmobile, Stutz, White and G.M.C. Trucks
    1921 – Winton, Maxwell, Oldsmobile, Stutz, White, Chalmers, and G.M.C. Trucks
    1923 – Maxwell, Chalmers, Hupmobile, Oldsmobile, Stutz, White and G.M.C. Trucks
    1926 – Chrysler, Packard, White and G.M.C. Trucks
    1929 – Packard and Chrysler Motor Cars, White Trucks and Busses
    1932 – Packard, Plymouth, Oldsmobile, White Trucks and Busses
    1936 – Cadillac, La Salle, Oldsmobile
    1942 – Cadillac, Oldsmobile

    By the late 1950s Stuyvesant Motors became DeWitt Cadillac Oldsmobile, Inc.

    The 1910 U.S. Census shows George Chambers as an undertaker.

  10. It is interesting to note the sign for the “American Motor League”, which was established in 1895. In 1904 it merged with the American Automobile Association to form the American Motor Association, so the Chambers must have forgotten to remove the sign when this photo was taken.

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