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The Stern-Faced Pigeon People and an Early Rambler Image

Today we have a set of interesting photos from two different sources. The lead photo shows a couple in a well-worn 1916 Model “T” Ford roadster. We do not have any idea why this photo was taken, but it appears to be a postcard and perhaps it was just taken for fun? The photo was posted by Herb Iffrig on the MTFCA Forum.

The image below was sent in by reader Jim Stout and was taken in Port Allegany, PA, his hometown. The chassis is an early Rambler with a temporary wooden seat and the gas tank under it was located by more fine woodworking. Can any of our readers date this chassis? You can view our earlier two-part coverage of the Rambler from 1897 until 1908 here.

1910 Rambler

16 responses to “The Stern-Faced Pigeon People and an Early Rambler Image

  1. I’m old enough to remember when feed pigeons in a public park was a pastime many enjoyed. The umbrella is for protection of occupants, not the “T” hood.

  2. I would date the Rambler chassis at 1909. There are some specific details, which can be dated such as the radiator shape, the rear attachment of the front springs and especially the 3 groups of 3 bolts on the rear wheel, which seems to have been a unique 1909 feature. The engine fits in with this, although some parts seem to be missing and the electric wiring shows extensive modification (and/or improvisation?).

  3. Sitting on a gas tank and having a smoke. How cool is that! I love these pictures, keep them coming. And incidently, I’m exercising a good deal of restraint on the pigeons, the right hand placement, and the stern look on their faces. Somebody else can have that!

  4. If I had that many pigeons pooping on my ’16 Ford I’d be looking pretty stern too.
    Fortunately I’ve only got a ’12 and they never come near it…

  5. Looks like a direct hit on the jacket ! This looks like it could actually be a young FDR and Eleanor photo. Great photo and some great comments.

  6. Posted for Johnny Ringo : “The Old Motor” lives up to it’s name with that Rambler image. The hemi domed cylinders in lieu of a solid cast block appear high performance for the day. What a genesis period hot rod.

    I can just tell, those kids are on the highway to hell.

  7. The model T photo has been somewhat discussed on the other forum as mentioned by David G (at least I guess it was David G?). And thank you Herb! Another great find.
    The car appears to be a 1916 with the black rimmed lamps, and probably a few years old based upon paint fading. Model Ts of that era had an interesting pattern to the paint fading. When they were new, and even with minimal care, they remained very shiny for at least a couple years. The main body was painted using a poorer quality of paint that first ran thicker down low where the sun reached it less. This leaves the paint thinner near the top where the sun beat on it worse. But at least the paint air-dried quickly. Fenders, side aprons, hood, lamps and other parts were oven baked and kept their shine much longer.
    Model Ts often give an optical illusion of the steering wheel being on the other side. I think it is a standard USA left hand drive, but cannot be certain. Many photos have been discussed at length about this characteristic.
    I cannot tell whether it has an electric horn button or not. I think not. I cannot tell if there is a horn bulb there or not. Something else mentioned on the other site is that the upholstery end cap by the passenger door appears to be leather, they switched to a metal end cap fairly early1916. That, coupled with probably a bulb horn, would make it a very late ’15 or very early ’16 model year. Nearly all Ford cars being produced were electric horn before October 1915.
    To muddy the waters a bit. To my eyes, the distortion of reflections in the rear fender make it appear to be a crowned fender which would have been somewhat later. There is evidence that some late 1916 model year cars did get crowned rear fenders maybe as early as June of 1916. It may also be that the fender had been replaced by the time this photo was taken probably two or three years later. It may also be that I am over analyzing. A common trait after studying thousands of photos over the years.

    The Rambler chassis is also fascinating. It also does not appear to be new, and I can’t help but wonder what is going on with it at that time.
    Thank you David, et al.

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